University spin outs
- Understanding spin-outs
- Rationale and benefits
- Practical guidance
Do you have a good business idea, are you interested in commercialising your research? Your university might be able to help you develop and set up a spinout company, including help with finding funding and selecting a team.
Emma Nolan, Head of IP commercialisation at the University of Liverpool, explains what a university spinout is, why they exist, and how you can get involved.
My name is Emma Nolan. I head up the University’s Technology Transfer Team, also known as the IP Commercialisation team. I’m going to talk to you, personally, about ‘University spin-outs: what, why and how?’
Just a bit of background about me. I’ve been at the University since 2018. I’ve been in technology transfer for the best part of my career in different roles: IP management, legal contracts, commercial contracts, setting up companies, getting investment and negotiating licence deals, so the whole range of activities.
Okay, so firstly a definition. What are spin-out companies? I do like to start with a definition. So, they’re defined as, ‘Registered companies set-up to exploit Intellectual Property that has originated from within the University…and in which the University has shares.’ If we unpack that a little bit more, registered companies, new entities, separate legal entities from the University, generally privately-owned companies.
When we talk about Intellectual Property, that’s a whole other subject area but IP is basically anything that results from the University’s research base that has potential commercial values. That includes IPs such as patents, know-how, copyright, software, generally a whole bundle of those IP rights will be required by a company to commercialise technology and in which the University has shares.
I don’t know if you’re aware that the University has a Distribution of Revenue Policy which applies to licencing and to spin-out companies. When we set up a spin-out company, the University will get some shares. The founding academics will get some shares.
Generally, we try to set up a spin-out company with a management team in place and, typically, they will get some shares, as well. I will talk in a bit more detail about management teams because that’s quite an important point.
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Useful information
- Consultancy businesses aren’t typically scalable as they rely on one person’s expertise.
- ‘Life-style’ companies are small companies which won’t grow big enough to warrant external investment but individuals can get a significant income through consultancy.
- Zombie companies, in this context, exist just barely, on minimal income just enough to continue operating/cover their operating costs, no assets and no growth. They persist as people can be reluctant to draw the company to a close.
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Q&A with Emma Nolan
- Q. My research/technology is broad, how do I narrow or focus this down?
A: The best way to do this is talking to industry via a Lean Launch pad. You need to have conversations with industry to find out what the problems are in your sector (for example in the full iCURE programme you’d have 100 conversations with industry). There isn’t a way to shortcut this crucial step of finding out what the problem/s are and if your technology could address this problem. Finding out the size of the problem is also important, as you’d want to aim to address a problem which is big or significant enough to warrant time and investment.
- Q: Start-ups often fail in their first year, do spin-outs typically survive longer?
A: Yes, spin-outs typically survive longer than start-ups as they often get incubated with the University first.
- Q: What is a University’s typical aim or end game for a spin-out?
A: The two drivers for Universities are impact and income. The Knowledge Exchange Framework (KEF) has metrics around intellectual property and commercialisation which are purely financial. There are several ways which a University can generate income from a spin-out;
- they could receive a dividend, where all shareholders get a share of the profits without an exit event,
- a trade sale
- flotation on the stock exchange, which involves selling a percentage of the business in the form of shares, which are subsequently traded
- Q: Do spin-outs have a typical size?
A: Not really is the short answer. Spinouts go through a series of stages, typically starting as a micro company. They then get investment and move to a growth stage where they can begin to employ people/increase the number of employees. If the company doesn’t grow this is usually a good indicator of an issue (or that it’s a consultancy company). At some point, if they continue to attract investment and grow, they can become companies which are significant in size and wouldn’t really be thought of as a spin-out anymore, like ARM Ltd.
- Q: Do University’s set targets for the number of spinout’s they’d like to have in a year?
A: Typically, yes. University’s report to HESA (Higher Education Statistics Agency) on Higher Education Business and Community Interaction and this feeds into the amount of funding the University receives. The size of the in-house intellectual property and commercialisation team varies a lot between different HE institutions, so the larger the team the higher the target of spinouts per year. Universities typically aim for quality over quantity of spinouts created.
- Q: Would the Chief Operating Officer (CEO) of a spinout company typically be the CEO of just that one company or multiple?
A: As, ideally, the CEO of a spinout company would be an experienced business leader with a good track record, when the spinout is just starting, they would probably be part time (due to salary expectations outstripping what the fledgling spinout could offer). As the spinout grows it’s likely that the CEO would become full time, this is what investors would expect.
- Q: Does setting up a spinout hamper your academic publications?
A: It doesn’t have to! You may have to delay the publication of an academic paper if you are filing a patent application. Publishing and having a spinout company are not mutually incompatible. In fact, the academic research progresses alongside the spinout (the spinout may sponsor PhD students or researchers) and so can be mutually beneficial.
- Q: Linked to the academic publication question, there is pressure with regards open science specifically around software or computer code development to share this on open platforms like GitHub, would this cause IP issues?
A: Open source is not recommended if you wish to protect your IP. Instead of going open source you could adopt a hybrid model and release the software under a creative commons license instead. Alternatively, you could release an earlier or more basic version and keep the ‘gold standard’ version for commercial purposes. It’s worth noting that due diligence is tricky on code, as often pieces of code (and packages) are incorporated from a range of sources, all under different licenses